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  vintage drum and cymbal dating - serial numbers, badges and other info

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info    updated12/7/2008...please email corrections/info

Ajax

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/ajax.html

http://www.drumarchive.com/Ajax/

Alejian

http://www.vintagecymbalguide.com/alejion.html

Apollo

http://www.drumarchive.com/Apollo/

Aria

http://www.drumarchive.com/aria/

Asba

http://www.drumarchive.com/asba/

http://www.vistalites.com/other/asba.htm

Autocrat

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/autocrat.html

Arbiter Autotune

 

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/autotune/

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/arbiter.html

http://www.drumarchive.com/Arbiter/

Beverley

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/beverley.html

http://www.drumarchive.com/beverley/

Bosphorous
Background from Drum Junction
Camber
Camber cymbals owned by Sabian [Source: All Experts ]

Cardinal

http://www.vistalites.com/other/Cardinal.htm

Carlton

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/carlton.html

http://www.drumarchive.com/carlton/

Camco

http://www.camcodrummer.com/

http://www.broadwaymusicco.com/kustom12.htm

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/

Myspace Camco

Capelle

http://www.drumarchive.com/capelle/

Conn

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/conn.html

Dallas

http://www.drumarchive.com/dallas/

Dandy

http://www.drumarchive.com/dandy/

Darby
 

Denjian

http://www.vintagecymbalguide.com/denjian.html

Dodge

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/dodge.html

Duplex

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/duplex.html

DW

Unless you have a 'born date' stamped in black inside the drum shell, it is difficult. A serial number will only give you an estimate. I have a pre birth dating dw kit with keller shells and after emailing dw, they could only estimate its date of manufacture as 'early 90's'. My other dw kit has 'aug 2006' stamped inside the shells. [Source: PJB, Harmony Central Forum, 29/4/2007]

My DW kit is from the same era. I think the badge color/metal type can give you a hind at it's age, but it's not exact by any means. I know my DW's have a gold/brass badge with black writing. Prior to that I think they had silver badges with black painted writingk, but I could be wrong. During the keller era they only had the "kit/order" number inside the shell of each drum, as well as the serial number on the badge. Once they started making their own shells they started with the born on date, and then things get much easier. Or something to that affect. Hope that helps.  [Source: James (SYMBOLIC) Harmony Central Forum, 29/4/2007]

Edgware

http://www.drumarchive.com/Edgware/

Fibes

http://www.drumsmith.com/archive/index.php/t-495.html

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/fibes.html

http://www.drumarchive.com/fibes/

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/

http://www.vistalites.com/other/fibes.htm

Frank Wolf

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/frank_wolf.html

http://www.drumarchive.com/frankwolf/

Geo Way

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/camco.html

Gladstone http://www.maxwelldrums.com/index.php?cPath=79_82

Gretsch

http://www.scottymoore.net/gretschdrums.html

http://www.seven.tomaatnet.nl/

http://www.drumarchive.com/Gretsch/

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/gretsch.html

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-207.html

http://www.adrummerstradition.com/articles.html

http://www.drumsmith.com/archive/index.php/t-4875.html

http://www.maxwelldrums.com/index.php?cPath=134_135

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/

Samples http://www.simonvintagedrum.com/

Hamma

http://www.drumarchive.com/hamma/

Hayman

Dating info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayman_drum#Dating_Hayman_Drums

http://www.btinternet.com/~graham_jordan_uk/hayman.htm

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/hayman.html

http://www.drumarchive.com/Hayman/

http://www.vistalites.com/other/hayman.htm

Hayman forum http://www.mikedolbear.com/forum/default.asp

Hipercussion

http://www.drumarchive.com/Hipercussion/

Hollywood

http://www.drumarchive.com/Hollywood/

Hoshino

http://www.drumarchive.com/Hoshino/

http://www.vistalites.com/other/hoshino.htm

Jalapeno
 

JHS

http://www.drumarchive.com/JHS/

John Grey

http://www.drumarchive.com/JohnGrey/

Kent

http://www.coopersvintagedrums.com/misc/kenthistory.htm

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/kent.html

Leedy

http://www.vintagedrum.com/leedy_black_elite_snare.htm

http://www.drumsmith.com/archive/index.php/t-4469.html

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/leedy.html

http://www.cocktaildrum.com/catalogs.html

http://www.adrummerstradition.com/articles.html

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/

Liberty

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/liberty.html

Ludwig

 

Ludwig drum dating

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/serial_numbers.html

Badges: http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/ludwig_badges.html

Serials: http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/serial_numbers.html

http://www.ludwigdrummer.com/Date%20Guide/Date%20Guide.html

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/ludwig.html

Serials: http://www.vintagedrum.com/ludwig_serials.htm

http://home.hetnet.nl/%7Ewinnie-/links/ludwigserno.html

http://www.drumarchive.com/Ludwig/

http://www.cocktaildrum.com/catalogs.html

http://www.classicdrums.com/index.php?page_id=7&folder=Ludwig%20Adverts

Ludwig & Ludwig

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/ludwig-ludwig.html

http://www.adrummerstradition.com/articles.html

http://www.maxwelldrums.com/information.php?info_id=15

Ludwig-Paiste

http://www.vintagecymbalguide.com/ludwig_paiste.html

Mapex drums
 

Maxtone
 

http://www.vistalites.com/other/Maxtone.htm

http://www.drummerworld.com/mydrumset/mydrumsetdrummers/Jonathan_Ortiz.html

Maxwell
 

Maxwin

http://www.drumarchive.com/Maxwin/

Meazzi

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/meazzi.html

http://www.fetishguitars.com/index/meazzi.html

see Hollywood, Wooding

Meinl
 

Olympic

http://www.vintageolympic.co.uk/

http://www.drumarchive.com/Olympic/

Orange

http://www.drumarchive.com/Orange/

Orange County

http://www.vistalites.com/other/ocdp.htm

Paiste

http://www.vintagecymbalguide.com/paiste.html

Peace Drums

 

Pearl

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/pearl.html

http://www.drumarchive.com/Pearl/

http://www.vistalites.com/other/Pearl.htm

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/

Pearl Forum http://www.pearldrummersforum.com/

Phattie

http://www.phattiedrums.com/web/history.htm

Pork Pie

'I actually sign each drum that is made in my factory. I have a book that tells me where the drums went and the date and serial number. I started at #1. I write the serial number in the shell under the air vent as well as my signature and the date. As of 2007, we are up to about 22,000 pieces" [Source: Bill Detamore, President Pork Pie Percussion, est. 1987, 5/2/2007]

Precision
 

Premier

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/premier.html

http://www.premier-percussion.com/faq.asp?id=3798

http://vintprem.moonfruit.com/

http://www.drumarchive.com/Premier/

http://www.vistalites.com/other/Premier.htm

Promark
 
 
Remo
 

Rhythm

http://www.drumarchive.com/Rhythm/

Ricochet

http://www.vistalites.com/other/Ricochet.htm

Rimmel

http://www.drumarchive.com/Rimmel/

Rogers

http://www.rogersfanclub.de/

http://www.drumarchive.com/Rogers/

http://www.notsomoderndrummer.com/Dynasonic.htm

kick http://www.drumsmith.com/archive/index.php/t-964.html

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/rogers_dynasonic_set_up2.html

http://www.maxwelldrums.com/index.php?cPath=79_85

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/rogers.html

http://www.cocktaildrum.com/catalogs.html

http://www.vistalites.com/other/rogers.htm

Rogers drum catalogs

1968 Fender catalog http://www.21frets.com/catalogs.html

Rogers forum http://rogersownersforum.com/default.aspx

Rose Morris

http://www.drumarchive.com/Rose_Morris/

Ruff

http://www.vistalites.com/other/ruff.htm

Sabian
 

Shaftesbury

http://www.drumarchive.com/Shaftesbury/

http://www.vistalites.com/other/Shaftesbury.htm

Simmons

http://www.drumarchive.com/Simmons/

Slingerland

Dating Slingerland Drums

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/drcjw/article_2_serial_numbers_page1.html

http://www.coopersvintagedrums.com/drumhistorysling.htm

http://www.slingerlanddrummers.mysites.nl/

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/slingerland.html

http://www.drumarchive.com/Slingerland/

http://www.drumsmith.com/archive/index.php/t-5133.html

http://www.drumsmith.com/archive/index.php/t-4522.html

http://www.cocktaildrum.com/catalogs.html

http://www.vistalites.com/other/Slingerland.htm

Sonor

http://www.sonormuseum.com/

http://www.drumarchive.com/Sonor/

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/sonor.html

http://www.vistalites.com/other/Sonor.htm

http://www.vintagesonor.de.vu/

http://www.sonor-signature.de/

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/

Spaun

http://www.vistalites.com/other/spaun.htm

http://rectangular.org/swords/images/gear/spaun_drums.htm

Spirit

http://www.spiritdrummers.com/

Star (Imperial)

http://www.drumarchive.com/Star/

http://www.vistalites.com/other/star.htm

Stratford

http://www.drumarchive.com/Stratford/

Supreme

http://www.vistalites.com/other/supreme.htm

Syndrum

http://www.drumarchive.com/Syndrum/

Tacton

http://www.drumarchive.com/Tacton/

Tama

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/tama.html

http://www.tama.com/support/tama_faq.asp?i=34&q=y&&LangID=1

http://www.tama.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=534&PN=1

http://www.drumarchive.com/Tama/

http://www.vintagedrumguide.com/

http://www.vistalites.com/other/Tama.htm

Rockstar 1990 http://www.tama.com/history/full_size/106-ROCK-RK.jpg

Trak

http://www.drumarchive.com/Trak/

Traps
 

Trixon

http://www.trixondrums.de/

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/trixon.html

http://www.drumarchive.com/Trixon/

TRX
 

Vistalite

http://www.vistalites.com/

http://www.drumarchive.com/Vistalite/

http://www.classicdrums.com/index.php?page_id=7&folder=Vistalites#

Wahlberg & Auge

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/walberg_auge.html

Wesper

http://www.vistalites.com/other/wesper.htm

http://www.trumpeter.se/Equipment.htm

Westend
 

WFL

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/wfl.html

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/ludwig-ludwig.html

Wilson

http://www.rebeats.com/drum_magazine.html

Windsor

http://www.drumarchive.com/Windsor/

Wooding

http://www.vistalites.com/other/Wooding.htm

Yamaha

http://www.vintagesnaredrums.com/yamaha.html

http://www.drumarchive.com/Yamaha/

Zickos

http://www.drumarchive.com/Zickos/

http://www.vistalites.com/other/Zickos.htm

Zilco

http://www.vintagecymbalguide.com/zilco.html

Zildjian

http://www.classicdrummer.com/archives/vdmarchives/GearArticles/DatingZildjianCymbals%20.pdf

http://www.vintagecymbalguide.com/zildjian.html